BREVA V7 CLASSIC TIMING COVER OIL SEAL

[Falcone]

Hi all,

Have been noticing an increased in use of oil on my V7 Classic and have discovered that there appears to be an oil leak behind the plastic alternator cover. Yet to take off to explore but am assuming it is the oil seal behind the alternator in the timing cover? Out of warranty of course – by two months!

I last replaced one of these some 25 years ago on my V50 Monza. I've been looking at the rather poor, I feel (compared to the old workshop manuals), V7 Classic factory workshop manual. Obvious differences to when I last did this! The big difference I am wondering about is the removal and replacement of the 'rev/stroke sensor'. The replacement being the pertinent point. The manual shows this to be rather more than just unscrew remove and plonk back in and tighten. Referring to air gap measurement etc.

Anyone any experience of this and any comment/advice appreciated?

Many thanks.

Dave Davies

[john zibell]

For the sensor, if you don't misplace any of the spacers/shims a removal and installation of the sensor will not impact the air gap.

[Falcone]

Thanks for that John. That did seem logical but I am a bit of a worrier and like re-assurance.

Just taken the plastic cover off and that confirmed the leak is coming from that seal. I've ordered the parts - in fact just had confirmation email they are on their way from 'Stein Dinse' in Germany. Although I'm in UK find it easier to deal; with them for parts!

Manual also refers to the use of a sealant paste - any recommendations?

Wish they were more forthcoming with torque settings too!

Dave

[john zibell]

No idea what they had in mind for a sealant paste. I suspect something like Yamaha bond, (available at Yamaha dealers) but I'm not sure. The Japanese bike brands tend to use the stuff in place of gaskets. As for torque settings, they aren't critical on the engine covers. Wrench art will go a long way to get them snug enough without stripping. I won't use a torque wrench on small fasteners. I prefer to go by feel.

[mudwasp]

I have also noticed a "seep" in this same area, I'll be taking it in for warranty work soon- not sure why you would want to do it yourself when it should be covered.

[Falcone]

Hi Mudwasp,

My warranty has run out. Not sure what you get in the US but is only 2 years over here and even then the importers don't have a reputation for being the most pro - active or sympathetic.

Dave

[sign216]

How did the repair go? Any pictures?

[mudwasp]

Dave- oops- sorry, i should have read the beginning of your post more carefully!
Just took my V7 classic in today to Erico in Denver, They seemed to think this was obviously a warranty issue- However... we will see how it is dealt with and i will report back. I also had a couple other things for them to look at, on Saturday i was out for a ride and my beloved bike puked oil all over my boots, pants and itself- pulled over immediately and and asked my husband to please go get the trailer-hopefully no harm done- possibly the oil temp sensing unit? The other thing i noticed while cleaning the oil bath off the bike was that there is excessive checking and some larger cracks in my rear tire on the sidewall- probably should have taken pix but didn't. I've ridden for many years and Metzler has always been a favorite tire brand, i've never seen this kind of thing with them(especially on tires with only 1500 miles on them) I check pressure very frequently-so i don't think this is neglect. As i said i'll give a report on these warranty issues, so far things are good. That being said i went into the purchase of this bike knowing that there might be some "sorting out" to do. I still love the bike and am willing to put up with quite a bit from it, I'm only sad that i'll likely miss a week or two of riding.

[oldmanjob]

Dave- oops- sorry, i should have read the beginning of your post more carefully!
Just took my V7 classic in today to Erico in Denver, They seemed to think this was obviously a warranty issue- However... we will see how it is dealt with and i will report back. I also had a couple other things for them to look at, on Saturday i was out for a ride and my beloved bike puked oil all over my boots, pants and itself- pulled over immediately and and asked my husband to please go get the trailer-hopefully no harm done- possibly the oil temp sensing unit? The other thing i noticed while cleaning the oil bath off the bike was that there is excessive checking and some larger cracks in my rear tire on the sidewall- probably should have taken pix but didn't. I've ridden for many years and Metzler has always been a favorite tire brand, i've never seen this kind of thing with them(especially on tires with only 1500 miles on them) I check pressure very frequently-so i don't think this is neglect. As i said i'll give a report on these warranty issues, so far things are good. That being said i went into the purchase of this bike knowing that there might be some "sorting out" to do. I still love the bike and am willing to put up with quite a bit from it, I'm only sad that i'll likely miss a week or two of riding.

I would check the valve cover gasket as I have oiled my boots twice First time I found out that Luigi messed up putting the gasket on, and the second time the gasket I put on, going along with a recommendation to put a very light coat of high temp grease on the gasket to keep it from sticking, well not high temp enough as the heat destroyed the gasket and oiled the boot again. :? Replaced the gasket dry this time Just had my 6000 mile service and valves were adjusted, new gaskets put on, so now I can blame the dealer if my boots get oiled again

Bill

[mudwasp]

We did the valve adjustment,replaced the gaskets- everything worked fine.Would a gasket problem seal at first and then let loose like that? what was the problem with the gasket in your case? mis-alignment ? junk under it ? Anyway, seeeing as how it's in denver at Erico I'm sure that the shop will fire it up and check all possibilities.they think it will be done on friday!!! If so i will be quite happy!