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New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

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New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby GT-Rx » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:24 pm

I have sourced a new vendor for Lithium batteries (made in the USA).
I will offer free shipping to the first five paid orders I receive. To order, contact me direct e-mail please; Todd at GuzziTech.com

Specs:
    Industry leading 3 year warranty - Designed, developed, and assembled in the USA
    Up to 80% smaller than the stock battery
    Up to 10lbs Lighter than the stock battery
    Service life of over twice a lead acid in similar conditions
    Hard mounted brass terminals for a direct replacement installation
    Completely “dry” technology so batteries can be mounted in any direction
    Non-toxic, recyclable, and can be air shipped
    Tested extensively by professional race teams
    Impact and water resistant
    Works with the original equipment charging system
    No trickle charger required, loses only 10% of charge over a year of static use

The manufacturer recommends the 16 cell, however several folks here are running the 12 cell (of this same brand) with great success.

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8 cell
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Dimensions: 112MM (L) x 60MM (W) x 103MM (H)
Positive Terminal Location: Left
Weight: 825 grams (1.81 lb)
Voltage (Charged): 13.6V
Amperage: 15 Pbeq A/H
Cold Cranking Amps: 275 CCA
Operating Environment: -18°C (0°F) to 60°C (140°F)
$149.99

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12 cell
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Dimensions: 112MM (L) x 86MM (W) x 103MM (H)
Positive Terminal Location: Left (Right)
Weight: 1100 grams (2.5 lb)
Voltage (Charged): 13.6V
Amperage: 20 Pbeq A/H
Cold Cranking Amps: 410 CCA
Operating Environment: -18°C (0°F) to 60°C (140°F)
$179.99

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16 cell
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Dimensions: 112MM (L) x 112MM (W) x 103MM (H)
Positive Terminal Location: Right
Weight: 1350 grams (3 lb)
Voltage (Charged): 13.6V
Amperage: 28 Pbeq A/H
Cold Cranking Amps: 500 CCA
Operating Environment: -18°C (0°F) to 60°C (140°F)
$259.99

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Balance Charger

The only charger made to work with the EVO2 Battery Management System.
Plugs directly into the batteries BMS port.
Able to balance charge all the cells individually for max power and durability.
Can double the expected life of the EVO2 battery.
Has Charge, Fast Charge, Balance Charge, and Storage Charge Functions.
$74.99
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby wrbix » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:06 am

I'm running two 4-cell's on my V50III Cafe with Valeo starter, and a 12-cell on my LM IV with Bosch starter. These are nice batteries - be careful not to overtorque the terminal bolts (DAMHIK), tho.

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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby GT-Rx » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:28 am

wrbix wrote:I'm running two 4-cell's on my V50III Cafe with Valeo starter, and a 12-cell on my LM IV with Bosch starter. These are nice batteries - be careful not to overtorque the terminal bolts (DAMHIK), tho.

Thanks for posting Bill, great info to have documented here.
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby guzzibob » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:27 pm

Todd, for those of us who don't have to have the latest & greatest-& the price that generally goes with that-do you still have the Taiwanese made more conventional AGM battery with I think you said 19 AH, a bit more AH than the stock Yuasa & at a considerably lesser price? How much for that & does it easily utilize the stock battery cable ends and have the same size/shape as stock? I checked over at the Guzzitech store & didn't see any batteries.
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby GT-Rx » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:10 pm

Hi Bob, I do... not on the store yet, but coming soon. The other AGM battery is drop-in/bolt-on, and the thread is here; http://forum.guzzitech.com/forum/160/6184.html -- just ping me direct for more info.
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby Mi_ka » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:47 am

LiION batteries are a pretty different fruit, as is well known. Much improved performance at the added technological requirement of needing "smart management" due to more delicate chemistry.
Do these batteries have any charge controlling circuits embedded?
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby john zibell » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:45 am

Mi_ka wrote:LiION batteries are a pretty different fruit, as is well known. Much improved performance at the added technological requirement of needing "smart management" due to more delicate chemistry.
Do these batteries have any charge controlling circuits embedded?


Yes they do. The circuits in the battery also shut it off at 9 volts (which is below the ECU requirement) to prevent damage. The manufacturer also has a specific charger for them that can smart balance the individual cells. A smart balance is recommended every 6 months to extend battery life but isn't a warranty requirement. The battery has a specific port on them (under the cap between the connectors) where the smart charger plugs in. The charger also has regular cables that can be used to charge standard (lead acid) batteries. I'm sure Todd will make the chargers available as well if there is demand.
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby Mi_ka » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:47 am

Nice info!
For the cell balancing, is the special charger needed or power can be delivered to the special port by a plain power supply unit?
I suppose that each cell has an embeded controller and there is some central chip arbitrating power through cells.
Any data sheet URLs? (To have all related data concentrated in this thread)
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby john zibell » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:02 am

Mi_ka wrote:Nice info!
For the cell balancing, is the special charger needed or power can be delivered to the special port by a plain power supply unit?


Not sure, but the charger price is reasonable and it plugs directly into the special port on their battery.


Mi_ka wrote:I suppose that each cell has an embedded controller and there is some central chip arbitrating power through cells.)


I do know there is circuitry in the battery that controls the cells, but as to exactly how that works, check with an electrical engineer. I just know the system works as provided and to me trying to circumvent the solution provided is just too much trouble and probably would end up more expensive than just buying their charger.
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Re: New Lithium Ion Batteries - Made in the USA

Postby Mi_ka » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:27 am

To cut short any unneeded questions of mine,
now that I am well aware of their plug'n'play existence, I would already have ordered one for my dream bike Griso (now what I need is the Griso itself :side: ).
If the bike is going to be sitting for long intervals, they will be proving their value very fast by not having to remember any maintenance charging. Just like mirrors, the good ones you never see them because they do their job always as supposed to...
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