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Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby ghezzi » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:31 pm

Anybody out there replaced their Bella shock,

I would love to know such things as length eye-to-eye.
Stroke length etc.

Would love an Ohlins with all the bling, remote pre-load, height adjustable and low/high speed comp & re.

I can notice the difference in ride quality since fitting new (lighter) exhaust system.
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby GT-Rx » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:26 am

Does the part # match any of the other CARC Guzzi?
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby ghezzi » Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:53 pm

Sorry Todd, don't have access to parts list for comparison.
Would imagine swingarm and linkages are same, but different frame and I believe lower spec shock than other models could equal different length/stroke/spring.

Will Jack and measure eye-to-eye this weekend, but cannot determine stroke length unless I dis-assemble it.
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby GT-Rx » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:10 pm

All of the Parts Manuals are under the Downloads tab at top. I just compared it to the Norge and Griso, and it was different, so I can't be of much help. Had they been the same, I have both OEM shocks sitting in my shop.

Best bet would be to ship the stock unit to Öhlins and have them build/spec one. Be sure to post as you go.
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby ghezzi » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:29 pm

Hi Todd, Bella files are pdf. which I can download and open.
Griso and Sport are winzip which I can't, and need to pay for.

Interestingly, Bella specs mention;

Rear Wheel Travel 120mm
Rear Wheel Travel (Luxury) 61mm. ????? Please explain.

Another thing, any part # starting with AP means it is an Aprilia part (you probably know that)
Bella shares rear brake light switch with an RS250 (AP8112996) ................ and so on.
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby GT-Rx » Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:59 pm

ghezzi wrote:Interestingly, Bella specs mention;
Rear Wheel Travel 120mm
Rear Wheel Travel (Luxury) 61mm. ????? Please explain.


The "Luxury" as I understand it, has a lower(ed) overall (seat) height. I couldn't tell you why this is something that people would like, outside of those vertically challenged.
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby Moz » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:10 pm

yeah its been noticed that the later bellagios have noticeably lower rear ends..

first is the later version (and which has the 'comfort seat') next to the matt black original
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby BellagioBob » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:19 pm

There are two types of Bellagio shock absorbers. The old Bellagio with the Chrome tank badges had the long shock the Lux and the Nera had the short suspension.

The part numbers are:

Shock absorber LUX 883114
Shock absorber BASE 977872

The Lux travel is 61mm the Base is 120mm

The Lux is 287 mm



1 883114 Ammortizzatore mm 287 1 Anno: 2008[8]Colore: Grigio/bianco 2008[gr/wh], rosso/bianco 2008[r/wh]

Specifiche Tecniche:Versione "Luxury"[LUX]
1 883114 Ammortizzatore mm 287 1 Anno: 2009[9]
Colore:Aquila Nera 2009[b.eagle]

1 977872 Ammortizzatore 1 Anno: 2007[7], 2008[8]
Colore: Nero 2007-2008[black]
Specifiche Tecniche:Versione "Base"[BASE}
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Re: Bellagio Suspension specs

Postby ghezzi » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:02 pm

Also curious about the spring rate, I'm 100kg in gear.
With preload wound totally off there is zero static sag, does this mean spring is too hard/stiff?

New exhaust and battery saving about 10kg in weight.

Bike needs more rear ride height for better/quicker turn in,
other than new shock are there alternative linkage set ups?

Standard shock measures 310mm eye-to-eye, with about a 40mm stroke before contact with rubber bump stop.
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