leak oil joint carter

[katacrak]

Hi, this leak is common in our model, thanks to support the motorcycle with the kickstand. This is supported between the engine block and the intermediate flange, making due to the weight side can leak through the seal. the bike has 3 years and 10 months and that the first faith.

Here I show you some pictures of the execution of works and a few surprises I encountered

oil leak:



supporting the bike on the wall





disassemble the protector



colecteur disassemble the left to access the side stand.



Remove the outer holes 14 and the interior has 4 odds capacity oil filter, the 4 holes do not tell the paper shop, and I DESPERATE because I do not know they existential:!:



clean the crankcase and filters inside because I find iron filings and a lot of mud







According to my mechanic this normal, and it has Devue fondition is not perfect.





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[Chicago Mark]

Maybe I need to enlarge the pictures because I don't see the oil leak you speak of. Exactly what problem do you have?

Happy New Year,

Mark

[katacrak]

Maybe I need to enlarge the pictures because I don't see the oil leak you speak of. Exactly what problem do you have?

Happy New Year,

Mark

....at de firts pick, the upper joint in this corner of view. The leak at first is minimum, when past de days increased a lot. The support the kickstand is one screws anchored to the engine block and the other two screws below the intermediate flange between the engine block and gearbox.

[pete roper]

Did the tappets fail on your bike? If so that'll be where the lumps in the sump are from.

The 'Mud' you describe is most likely water that hs condensed and formed mayonaise. From memory your bike doesn't do many long trips does it?

As for removing the sump?f you are unsure ASK before attempting it. I would strongly suggest finding a better, safer way of holding the bike upright while working on it to!

Pete

[gstallons]

When you take the pan off of anything, you will find things you might not like. This is not extraordinary. The rough surfaces on the crank cheeks; I have no idea about that condition.
I wish you had put dye in the engine oil to see exactly where the leak is coming from. Now you will hve to speculate as to what to do. Replace what gaskets you think are the culprit(s) and reassemble.
Pete is right, you are cruisin' for a bruisin' with the bike like that. Do you have anyone that can loan you a stand?
p.s. Use a small dab of silicone sealer at corner mounting edges only.

[katacrak]

Did the tappets fail on your bike? If so that'll be where the lumps in the sump are from.

Yes, it was repaired with 1000 kms of new tappets B. ... while doing a check of the clearance the right cylinder exhaust valves were 0.2, the rest was perfect


The 'Mud' you describe is most likely water that hs condensed and formed mayonaise. From memory your bike doesn't do many long trips does it?

if Yes, is like mayonaise, my trips are typically 15 km to my work and back every day 15. Occasionally makes a way out of Sunday, no more than 150 kms. But it is very rare with only 1000 kms and two long distances of 100 and 150 km, having changed the oil and performing other work cleaning waste oil, forming much mayonnaise. In winter form more, in summer dont make.

As for removing the sump?f you are unsure ASK before attempting it. I would strongly suggest finding a better, safer way of holding the bike upright while working on it to!

I called my mechanic, and I told him that he could not get the sump I mean the screws next to the oil filter, not seen. I do not want mechanical intervention, I'm not mechanical nor do I have the right tools, but my mechanic told me it was easy and to do so.
You are right that is not how to work safely, but it was the recommendation in the absence of media, which gave me my mechanic.
Pete

[katacrak]

When you take the pan off of anything, you will find things you might not like. This is not extraordinary. The rough surfaces on the crank cheeks; I have no idea about that condition.
I wish you had put dye in the engine oil to see exactly where the leak is coming from. Now you will hve to speculate as to what to do. Replace what gaskets you think are the culprit(s) and reassemble.
Pete is right, you are cruisin' for a bruisin' with the bike like that. Do you have anyone that can loan you a stand?
p.s. Use a small dab of silicone sealer at corner mounting edges only.

I told my mechanic to put besides Nural 28 (silicone). and he gave me was not necessary, and the truth is that it has returned to leak from the same place. I will need to remove and put silicone.

in fact came from the factory that he had made ​​by black silicone joints two faces, .....is my impresion when i remove

[gstallons]

Loctite makes an anaerobic gasket maker. Part # 518. I use it where there is no gasket.I don't know if you are using gasket on the mating surfaces? This stuff is used on perfectly dry mating surfaces and it is GREAT !

[katacrak]

Well I was wrong. The leak is inside the clutch.....





is for as i change de gaskets to sump and continue drain oil.

I thing this is ocosionate for vibrations when de tappets are losing material.. look at this pictures:





These tappets were made in February 2011 and only did 4000 kms. changed by the new B. ..... in November 2011

[pete roper]

Flange leak is a warranty issue. The tappets appear to be the very early type. They haven't made those for years. Compare them to pics of the later types V2 and V3 and you'll see it looks like you have been given old stock.

old type



New type on left, old type on right



There is no readily discernable difference between the V2 and V3 tappets but to even a casual eye it is obvious that your 'Replacements' are of the early V1 type superceeded in 2009. I suggest you take it up with the dealer who supplied the parts.

Pete