Side-cut keys

[GT-Rx]

From Todd at MPHCycles.com;

I finally found someone who can cut the late style transponder keys.
He can duplicate them, and he can also cut keys from the 4-digit code that came with your spare key from the dealer. You saved that, right?
Zadi codes Z3000-9999 are in his database.
Said he'd be glad to do business via e-mail.

Key blanks are ~$39/each direct from MPH.

See link HERE.

[guzzibob]

Good news indeed. And then after you get the key you do some kind of magic with your remaining key & the dash to match the new key to the bike, or something like that, right?

[john zibell]

Good news indeed. And then after you get the key you do some kind of magic with your remaining key & the dash to match the new key to the bike, or something like that, right?

With the user code and one key, you can add the second. The procedure is in the Breva 1100 service manual on page 30 of the PDF file. (The PowerPoint charts that were converted to PDF.) The procedure to add new keys if the lock set is changed is on page 31. One of the important reasons to know your user code. Can't be done without it.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Hmmm, one thing I'm wondering??.. I've never put in a user code, because if I can lock myself out of something I will. If I would lose the keys, would I be able to get new ones talking to the immobilizer with a default, or *should* I put in a user code?

[john zibell]

Hmmm, one thing I'm wondering??.. I've never put in a user code, because if I can lock myself out of something I will. If I would lose the keys, would I be able to get new ones talking to the immobilizer with a default, or *should* I put in a user code?

Without the user code, you can't add a key. You also need to have one recognized key. See my post above. Also if the immobilizer fails, you can't start the bike without the user code. Be sure to record the user code in your owners manual. Many folks just use the maintenance code as the user code so they only need to remember one number.

[Chuck in Indiana]

ok, thanks for that, John.. I was thinking that the user code was just something to cause me grief if I forgot it.. and apparently it is, but I need to put it in anyway.

[Saint Nut]

For my 2007 Norge, I bought an Aprilia key blank from Moto-International in Seattle for $11.50. Here's an online link if you want to see what it looks like. Then I mailed the blank along with my OEM key to Jason at J&B in Texas. Jason cut the key and mailed both of them back. Overall turnaround time using Priority Mail was 7 days. Jason charged me $45 including postage, plus $5 for my postage, plus the cost of the blank, made it $61.50 total. The new key works like a charm in both the ignition and the cases.

Only thing I thought was weird is that I did not need to teach the bike the new key. The Aprilia key blank supposedly has a transponder chip, but I just stuck it in the ignition and started up the bike. Strange.

Anyway, here's a thumbs up for Jason at J&B.

[LockEater]

Hi Gang,

First off, thanks for the business MPH...I'm the locksmith that's mentioned in this thread. Funny, registering for a motorcycle forum membership, when it is beyond my nerves to sit on one, lest it's for work.

Secondly, glad I could help St. Nut. Why your key did not require the immo code to register is rather strange indeed.
Perhaps the new key was introduced to the ignition immediately after a registered key? Some cars will "still see" the transponder for a few seconds after having removed it.

Just so anyone here knows, we can not only cut these keys, but if an immo code is unknown, and you still have one key left, it can be sent to me to duplicate both mechanically and electronically.

Also, for the record, if all keys are lost, you needn't have to replace all locks and cluster on the bike. If you can pull the cluster and ignition lock cylinder and send it to us, we can generate a key and read info from the tacho to get a working key for your bike. Not a $45 job, but much much less than the average replacement costs associated with this scenario.

If anyone needs anything, feel free to contact me via phone or email. (281) 351-5625 or at jandblockandkey@yahoo.com, respectively.

Best Regards,

J&B Lock & Key
Jason Damron
619 West Main St
Tomball, TX 77375
281-351-5625
jandblockandkey at yahoo.com

[Saint Nut]

Why your key did not require the immo code to register is rather strange indeed.
Perhaps the new key was introduced to the ignition immediately after a registered key? Some cars will "still see" the transponder for a few seconds after having removed it.

Of course, that's exactly what I did. Started my bike with the OEM key. Shut it down then immediately re-started with the Aprilia key. But just went back and tried the Aprilia key again (hours later) and it works fine. No code needed. Weird.