Updated Maps are available.

[john zibell]

All,

While at the National Rally in Salida CO I had the opportunity to spend a little timw with Josh from MGNA, Costa Mesa. He was updating maps with the Axone on Norges. During our discussion he stated there are updates for the 1100 Breva and the 1200 Sport as well. Josh stated that the new maps for the 1100 Breva will cure the parking lot bucking problem as well as the hot start issue I didn't know I had. Also that the 1200 Sport benefits the most from the updated map. He also let me copy his sheet that tells the latest version map for each of the following bikes:

Bike / Last few places of Map ID

1100 Breva / V12

Norge / NG18

Norge 8 valve Original Map #3221NRG142 & Updated (New) Map#3222NG01 (from V700steve)

1200 Sport / BB01

8V Griso / 68

1100 Griso / GRS-1103

Stelvio / 52

V7C / V7NEVAD

Updated information from pauldaytona for the Stelvio:


STELVIO 1200 MY '08 2229STV8V52
STELVIO 1200 MY '09 no abs 2229STA42Z
STELVIO 1200 MY '10 ABS Continental 2229STA42Z
STELVIO 1200 MY '09/'10 /ABS Bosch 2229STA42ZA
STELVIO 1200 MY '10/'11 3222ST02


I can tell the Breva runs a little bit richer but not enough to impact fuel economy. I managed to get a calculated low of 48 mpg (US gallons) with the best of 51 mpg on the trip back from Salida, CO to Huntsville, AL. BTW, none of it was slow travel.

[klaas123]

Thanks for the info John!

[cmgies]

John,

Do you know if there is a way to determine which map version you are running? I have an '07 Norge which the dealer says they updated the map on and I would like to validate that.

Michael

[john zibell]

cmgies wrote:

John,

Do you know if there is a way to determine which map version you are running? I have an '07 Norge which the dealer says they updated the map on and I would like to validate that.

Michael

I know the Axone will give the current map. I think the VDSTS will as well but I'll need to check that. I will edit this post when I find out.

Added info:

The VDSTS shows the current map revision under system information. For the 1100 Breva the letters "BA" followed the "V12" designation. So on the other maps there may be additional letters displayed after the information in the original post.

[cmgies]

But no way to see what it is from the dash information?

Michael

[john zibell]

cmgies wrote:

But no way to see what it is from the dash information?

Michael

Not that I'm aware of.

[pete roper]

John? Any idea exactly HOW to access the new Stelvio map through axone?

I have the latest 7.2.0 upgrades in mine but unlike the Griso 12 upgrade when i went to 'Reprogramming' in the Stelvio file it gave me nothing? I was thinking that perhaps the tool had to be plugged into the bike for it to identify the existing map before giving you the options but I pluged it into Vito's (? The So Cal guy.) bike when I was in LA and it said nothing! His bike is 'Supposed' to be an '09 so it may be that the new map was installed ex-factory. Unfortunately we aren't given any info as to the hows, why's and wherefores of the map choices and installation:angry: so while I think it has been estabished now that if you DO install a new map you can't then go back to the old one, (At least not with Axone.) I don't know if, if the 'Latest' map is installed ex factory the tool will then tell you that there are no further updates available.

It IS extraordinarily frustrating. Can the memory card be upgraded via connection to a computer running Navigator? and talking of that have you used Navigator and are there any significant advantages to it over axone? On the face of it I can't see any???

Pete

[bigtex]

Some info:

I had the MGNA tech guy update my Stelvio's map at the national meet. He knew there was a new map and his Axone told him something that I had the old map (I wasn't looking at the screen, sorry). He said that the new map is better for most folks, with more kick down low, and would only be bad if you were a constant dirt rider and needed a more gentle low rev ability. He also confirmed that you cannot go back to the old map on the Stelvio - it is one way up only.

The map is an improvement for me - much better in the middle of the range, much happier in the canyons. I can't tell for sure exactly how much better the new map is because he also tweaked a few things and more importantly played with the synch - the screws were both all the way out. Apparently none of the bikes he saw that weekend that were set up by the Denver dealer were even close.

[Wayne Orwig]

I've only seen the Axone operate for a few minutes when my Stelvio was updated. I believe he was going into the memory upgrade menus to display the current version. Afterwords we repeated that and it showed the new firmware.

The Navigator menus appear to be a bit more friendly. Too bad the upgrade can't be done via VDSTS, it is SO much easier to use.

[john zibell]

pete roper wrote:

John? Any idea exactly HOW to access the new Stelvio map through axone?

I have the latest 7.2.0 upgrades in mine but unlike the Griso 12 upgrade when i went to 'Reprogramming' in the Stelvio file it gave me nothing? I was thinking that perhaps the tool had to be plugged into the bike for it to identify the existing map before giving you the options but I pluged it into Vito's (? The So Cal guy.) bike when I was in LA and it said nothing! His bike is 'Supposed' to be an '09 so it may be that the new map was installed ex-factory. Unfortunately we aren't given any info as to the hows, why's and wherefores of the map choices and installation:angry: so while I think it has been estabished now that if you DO install a new map you can't then go back to the old one, (At least not with Axone.) I don't know if, if the 'Latest' map is installed ex factory the tool will then tell you that there are no further updates available.

It IS extraordinarily frustrating. Can the memory card be upgraded via connection to a computer running Navigator? and talking of that have you used Navigator and are there any significant advantages to it over axone? On the face of it I can't see any???

Pete

Pete,

I'm afraid I can't help you much with the Axone. I do know that if the map is loaded to the Axone it will allow the update. I'm not sure which menu allows you to see the current version installed in the ECU. I do know on the 4V bikes the upgrade is one way and you cannot go back to the old map. On the 2V bikes you can go back to the older maps if you aren't happy with the new one.